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When it comes to running marathons, you should always plan in advance. I know, I've run 18 of them. Well, this time I made a mistake. Thinking that it was a low key marathon, I wouldn't have any problems booking a hotel room two weeks before. Well, everywhere I called is booked. I managed to find a room at the Westin for $200, but I was wondering if anybody would like to share it with me (and the costs with it). If so, please email me directly. I would really appreciate it.
Francis francis@runnersplanet.com
bk, NY USA - Friday, September 26, 2003 at 12:53:53 (ET)


I'm driving in from Newport on race morning. Where might I park?
Larry
USA - Friday, September 26, 2003 at 11:03:08 (ET)


Ahhh!! I can't wait anymore. My last long run is done with. It went really well actually. Tapering is going especially well. haha just kidding. I'm really nervous, but i'm trying to stay positive. My goal is under 5 hrs. I know it's not an amazing feat, but this is my first marathon and i'm only 16 yrs old. Well i can't wait until the big day. See you guys there!
T.J.
Cranston, RI USA - Thursday, September 25, 2003 at 17:47:02 (ET)


The OSM course looks intimidating on paper but the hills aren't really all that bad. Out of all the fall marathons I prefer to run OSM. This will be my 4th and I always qualify for Boston.
So forget about the hills and enjoy scenic Providence.

Cindy marathonmomma@msn.com
Attleboro, MA USA - Thursday, September 25, 2003 at 16:16:33 (ET)


First OSM Marathon - Very excited, very anxious - We did our final training run this past Saturday in great weather down here in Charlotte - Most folks here are running Chicago on 10/12 - Been there done that - It is all about trying different races -
In reading the comments from y'all the hills appear intimidating - oh well
I will be trying for a perfect 9 minute/4 hr marathon

Glenn
Charlotte, NC USA - Thursday, September 25, 2003 at 09:23:26 (ET)


I'm shooting for 2:55ish: 6:40 pace all the way. I'm sure there will be enough people trying to break 3:00 so that we won't be completely alone the whole race.
OSM 2003 Participant
USA - Thursday, September 25, 2003 at 09:12:46 (ET)


Am running my last 23-miler this Saturday. Trying to keep the weight down. Just ran the Philly Half this past weekend and yes, I do hope the weather could be like the one we just this past Sunday. I'm looking to run between 2:58 and 3:05. Will I run in no man's land the whole time or will there be some kind of group?
Francis francis@runnersplanet.com
bk, NY USA - Wednesday, September 24, 2003 at 22:07:52 (ET)


Finished feeling ok with a 22 miler on Sat. Hope the next couple of weeks fly by. Was reading the course description and sure hope all those turns through Providence especially the merges of the two races are well marked and manned.
Ray
USA - Tuesday, September 23, 2003 at 21:27:32 (ET)


If we can get a day like we had on Sunday it would be great. This is my first marathon and the thought of tapering down is a welcome one!
OSM Participant
Providence USA - Tuesday, September 23, 2003 at 16:46:17 (ET)


OK, we should all be tapering now. How did everyone's last long run go?
OSM 2003 Participant
USA - Tuesday, September 23, 2003 at 14:57:28 (ET)


The hills are alive with the sound of muscle spasms!!!

For those of you who keep mentioning the hills, here’s my two cents, these are the one’s that get my attention:

Mile 20 – Gano St. Nice timing for a hill, one that seems to go on forever. Not super steep just unending. OK just 6.22 miles to go – Hang Tough!!

Mile 21.5 – Irving Ave. Bam!! OK Emeril I know you grew up just north of here, but good Lord show some restraint when adding seasonings. This thing with just a little more of an increase in percent grade would literally be a wall.

Mile 23.4 – Hillside Ave. Can’t we just have the hills over with! This little face slapper comes near the end just to keep things interesting.

Make sure you check out the elevation page on this site to get the full picture.

Elevation Map


Marc
USA - Tuesday, September 09, 2003 at 14:56:54 (ET)


Last year, at about mile 21, there was a young boy handing out oreo cookies. I felt so bad at the time that I figured it couldn't hurt, so I took one!
Mike ri_runner@hotmail.com
South County USA - Wednesday, September 03, 2003 at 10:11:03 (ET)


not lying!! two years ago, there was a family with a lemonade-stand at around fourteenth mile. With half bananas and sports drinks. They made me laugh. Bring those people back.
jon
USA - Saturday, August 30, 2003 at 19:21:12 (ET)


We are happy to be providing Orange Ultima for all of our fall marathons. It is our best tasting flavor to date. And, yes, we are very different from Gatorade... more like Gatorade before they added the sugar some years ago... or very similar to Exceed, which also used all 5 essential salts/electrolytes....
Seth Bovio sbovio@ultimareplenisher.com
New York, NY USA - Tuesday, August 26, 2003 at 18:50:17 (ET)


To Laura and All: There are ample porta-lets at the start and one at every other water/Ultima station (there are 14 staions on course) and two at each of the three medical aid stations. This infomation will be detailed in the letter which will go out to every entrant in mid-September and thereafter.
gerry beagan osm26@ids.net
east greewnwich, RI USA - Tuesday, August 26, 2003 at 17:16:32 (ET)


Are there outhouses or bathrooms along the way? My greatest fear!
Laura
USA - Tuesday, August 26, 2003 at 14:48:59 (ET)


I've done a bit more research into the Ultima issue and I'd like to follow up me previous post:

One of my primary concerns with Ultima was the low carbohydrate content. Ultima has about 4 grams of carbohydrate per 8oz compared to 14 grams of carbohydrate in 8oz in Gatorade. However, Ultima uses only complex carbohydrates, where Gatorate uses simple carbohydrates (sugar). Apparently complex carbohydrates provide more energy (gram for gram) than simple carbohydrates.

Furthermore, the delivery of energy from complex carbs is more even than with simple sugars. (Sugar produces the well-known energy 'peaks' and 'crashes'.

Ultima is also compaible with gels, which means that you can take gel at the same time as a drink of Ultima. You should not take gels and a conventional sports drink simultansoulty, becase the high sugar content of that combination will greatly reduce the rate of gastric emptying, defeating the whole purpose of taking the gel in the first place.

I have had concerns about the taste of Ultima. I've tried it on a few runs and I've had trouble swallowing it. However, on my training runs it's usually stashed in the bushes alongside the road, where it is inevitably warm. I find that when it is cold, the taste is not a problem.


Mike ri_runner@hotmail.com
South County USA - Monday, August 25, 2003 at 16:27:40 (ET)


Regarding Ultima: Although I don't like the taste, I can stomach it. I've done some research, and it's a very good hydrator. However, it is not an energy drink like Gatorade or Powerade. It has very low carbohydrate content. If you had planned on using a sports drink as part of your energy strategy you will have to compensate by carrying extra sources of energy. When I asked my local running store about the difference between Ultima and Gatorade, they said "They're basically all the same". They were wrong.
Mike ri_runner@hotmail.com
South County USA - Monday, August 25, 2003 at 10:52:39 (ET)


CK, I'm no marathon training coach, but why don't you see how you feel after 20 miles then try to pick it up for the last 3? Even on a flat course I would consider that an excellent long run.

Can there really be NO hills where you're traveling?
Mike ri_runner@hotmail.com
South County, RI USA - Monday, August 25, 2003 at 10:41:26 (ET)


According to the training schedule that I'm using, I have my longest "long run" (23 mi.) coming up in three weeks. As it turns out, I will be travelling during this time, and it looks like I'll be forced to do this run on a dead flat course. My question is, should I adjust for this by running longer and/or using a faster pace, or is there any other way to make this final long run more effective?
CK
RI USA - Sunday, August 24, 2003 at 12:05:29 (ET)


On the Ultima issue: Yes, we will use Ultima as our on course fluid replacement. The company was the only one to come forward to support us with product and we believe they have made significant improvements in the drink. The flavor this year will be either the orange or lemon-lime. For more information on Ultima please scroll down to the May 22 entry on this guestbook for comments by Seth Bovio of Ultima and you can directly e-mail him from there with further questions.
gerry beagan osm26@ids.net
east greenwich, RI USA - Saturday, August 23, 2003 at 20:15:55 (ET)


Which flavor Ultima will be used during the race. I want to try it on a few runs before I sign up for this marathon.
Dave S dave.sousa@hansonprinting.com
USA - Friday, August 22, 2003 at 13:56:03 (ET)


Great job to the race organizers for securing a title sponsor! Is it possible that we can get something other than Ultima at the water stops? It's been making me sick on my long runs. Anyone else having trouble keeping Ultima down?
Rhode Island
USA - Friday, August 22, 2003 at 11:47:01 (ET)


In response to the last two entries: We will have energy bars provided by Smartfuel which will be placed in every runner goody bag. We do not, to date, have a sponsor providing any type of gel or gu. If we do receive that type of donation we would choose to also put that in the goody bag. It is our experience, in our event, and in running other events that placement of these items on course leads to some people not getting the product, getting it at a point in the event when they might not prefer it and an additional refuse problem on course that leads to slippery surfaces and significant increase in post race cleanup. In presenting runners with the product before the race they can use it when most convenient to their needs and perhaps they will hold onto the package rather than discard it on course.
As for the awards question. The quick answer is the awards you earn are the awards you receive. If a master 40 to 44 wins the race outright he claims both first overall and first in his age group and so on through the fields of both events. So, if the scenario presented happens and age group winners over age 39 fill out the first ten overall places, the 24-year-old in 11th place would, indeed, go home empty handed. We strongly doubt that would happen but it is reason enough for the person in question to train a bit harder and finish ahead of the old folks.
gerry beagan osm26@ids.net
east greenwich, RI USA - Tuesday, August 19, 2003 at 17:22:26 (ET)


I read the awards info and I'm a bit confused still. It says awards will go to that the top 10 finishers overall and the top three in age groups: Masters 40-44 and 45-49 Seniors 50-54 and 55-59 Veterans 60-64 and 65-69 Ultra Veterans 70+.

Does this mean that the open division (0-39) is only eligible for these awards if they are in the top 10 overall?

In other words, suppose a 24 year old man places 11th, behind 10 other men. He will not get an award even if everyone ahead of him was over 40 years old?
Mike
USA - Tuesday, August 19, 2003 at 14:31:40 (ET)


How many water stations will be offering Gu or power bars?
nate
USA - Monday, August 18, 2003 at 18:47:59 (ET)


Peter and all, The average low for the second week of October in 38 and the average high is 59, extremes are 60 and 80 respectively. The chance of rain is about 30 percent and average wind is just under 10 mph. Hope that helps.
gerry beagan osm26@ids.net
east greenwich, RI USA - Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 18:14:05 (ET)


Gerry,
For the benefit of the 5 Houstonians I'm bringing with me, do you have average race day temp info for the past few years? Gracias amigo.
Pete Sloan peter.sloan@earthlink.net
Houston, TX USA - Tuesday, August 12, 2003 at 10:15:30 (ET)


Nob Hill, Beacon Hill, Beverly Hills.....it's true, there are hills in Rich Neighborhoods. Indeed, when we are doing the JOGGING TOUR of Providence Neighborhoods, at around the twentieth mile, (i'd like to live here!!) there are small hills. Imagine two-city-blocks.
Jon
USA - Thursday, August 07, 2003 at 02:22:30 (ET)


OSM 2002 was my first marathon, so I'm not an expert on the relative difficulty of marathon courses. Ed's question is "Is the OSM course too hilly to run a Boston qualifying time?". In that hundreds of people at OSM 2002 ran qualifying times (I suspect), the answer is NO, the OSM course is not too hilly to run a Boston qaulifying time.

That being said, I did not qualify for Boston. In my age group I would have needed to run 3:10, and I was closer to 3:40. I had been running for less than a year at the time, so I'm confident I will qualify this year.

My opinion, for what it's worth, is that OSM is not a hilly course. It's probably hillier than Chicago or London, but it's not bad. In any event, it seems to me that if you want to run Boston (a hilly course) why would you want to use a flat course to qualify, only to run a relatively slow time at Boston?
Mike
USA - Wednesday, August 06, 2003 at 12:55:55 (ET)


As Race Director I hesitate to answer questions about the relative ease or difficulty of our course but since there have been a few questions I will give my view with the hope that someone who has actually competed on the course as it was last year and is this year would chime in.
There is also a very accurate course description on these pages and a course profile that looks much more ominous than the course really is. To shrink 26.2 miles into a few inches makes even a molehill look ominous.
The course is primarily run at sea level and the highest elevation is just about 150 feet above seal level. The significant uphill sections are at 20 and at 23 miles. There are a few lesser grades along the course but none as significant as the latter two. Overall, I would rate the course as moderate but fully manageable for anyone having done the training to reach their goal over the distance. Even the easiest course will betray an unprepared athlete. The decided plus of the Providence course is the variety in terrain and scenery throughout and the loop configuration makes for numerous specatator, friend and family views of their favorite runner. I am anxious to read the comments, either pro or con, from someone who has run here.
gerry beagan osm26@ids.net
east greenwich USA - Tuesday, August 05, 2003 at 18:27:12 (ET)


2 Questions.

I'm trying to qualify for Boston. Is this course too hilly to run a qualifying time for Boston?
Also, will there be any GU/Gel stations on the course?

Thanks,
Ed
Ed
Lexington, MA USA - Tuesday, August 05, 2003 at 15:15:43 (ET)


Could someone answer Dawn's question about the hills in this marathon please? I'm curious about this matter also. Thanks!
Cody
Boston, MA USA - Tuesday, August 05, 2003 at 10:47:37 (ET)


Michael, In an organized race, you shouldn't have trouble with dehydration if you make use of the water stations. On the other hand, running with something on your back or waist is tough. Unless the hydration system is built for running, it will bounce a lot and make it virtually impossible to run.

I don't know about the Spyder system and if it's created for running. I do know that the Fuelbelt works well. It was designed for running and works because it splits up the water into six small containers (that go around your waist) so there isn't much bounce. It works well, and you might consider it for your training, but you really shouldn't need it for the race with the water stations.
John Elliott JElliott@MarathonGuide.com
New York, NY USA - Sunday, August 03, 2003 at 14:56:07 (ET)


To Everyone: The half marathon final two miles have been settled and a graphic representation will be put up on the web site shortly. A reminder, the first 11.1 miles of the marathon and half marathon are the same.
gerry beagan osm26@ids.net
east greenwich, RI USA - Saturday, August 02, 2003 at 17:23:32 (ET)


Fletcher, CLAIM a different spot for your short run. Go somewhere else. Do trail runs. Run through the city. Run late at night!!
idunno
USA - Saturday, August 02, 2003 at 01:49:26 (ET)


OSM '03 will be my first marathon. I am considering using a spyder backpack hydration system as I often have problems with dehydration on longer runs. Does anyone use these back pack/fanny pack hydration systems on long runs? What are your experiences??
Michael
USA - Friday, August 01, 2003 at 20:23:39 (ET)


This is going to be my first marathon. Mentally I'm not having any trouble with the longer training runs (up to 18 miles at this point), but I'm having real trouble getting myself out the door for my shorter runs during the week. Any suggestions on how to put a little more excitement back in these runs?
Fletcher
USA - Friday, August 01, 2003 at 15:12:06 (ET)


Any idea when the rest of the half marathon course will be posted?

Keeping my fingers crossed for a sunny day.
Rich
USA - Thursday, July 31, 2003 at 11:17:21 (ET)


There will be mile markers at every mile and digital clocks at 5, 10, 15, 20 and 25 miles. There will also be two ChampionChip recording points on the course in unspecified locations.
gerry beagan osm26@ids.net
east greewnich, RI USA - Wednesday, July 30, 2003 at 19:51:49 (ET)


Will there be Clocks or vocal time keepers at each mile? This is my first and I'm psyched!
Nate
USA - Wednesday, July 30, 2003 at 13:52:30 (ET)


Entries for the marathon are comparable to last year's numbers at this point and half marathoners are coming in at a slower rate but are expected to be increasing as race weekend is closer. We expect about 1000 to 1200 marathoners and 500 to 750 half marathoners.
gerry beagan osm26@ids.net
east greenwich USA - Sunday, July 27, 2003 at 17:06:13 (ET)


How are the registration numbers for the race so far?
Mike
USA - Thursday, July 24, 2003 at 13:52:39 (ET)


Nickolas - After much research, I have just picked up Pete Pfitzinger's book "Advanced Marathoning" and am planning to do the training plan that peaks at 55 mpw. I think you should take a look at it since it will fit into your schedule and it comes highly recommended. If you follow it, I'm sure you could get back to your 3:50 time. Good luck. Dawn
Dawn dawnyoung@sympatico.ca
Toronto, ON Canada - Sunday, July 13, 2003 at 09:26:30 (ET)


whoohah---YaHOo---WOoHOo---F U N...do you ever talk to yourself like THAT while jogging? I am in a need of a running partner, with HUMOR. I am located in Boston.
seung seung.kim29@verizon.net
MA USA - Sunday, July 13, 2003 at 03:13:38 (ET)


TRAINING WORRIES...
I have run marathons in the past, but I very much would like to run faster. Time is not on my side. I have a busy schedule and a family. I am unable to push my mileage past 50-60 miles per week. I usually can only do this for a few weeks in the summer and then it drops to 40/week. I have a partner that is running 70+ per week with continuous long runs of 12, 15, 18, 20. This is only his first marathon. He has never been a runner and just started serious this year. I have been running for 20 years and would like to do a 3:50 pace for this race, but my best time is 4:07 and that was 10 years ago. I feel that if he is doing this kind of running then I must do it also in order to do a better time.

Please advise
Nicholas
USA - Saturday, July 12, 2003 at 12:25:32 (ET)


Can anyone who has run both OSM and Cape Cod Marathon (CCM) comment on the differences on the hills on these 2 courses? I did CCM in 2002 as my first marathon and the 10+ miles of hills on the 2nd half really beat me up. I'm not necessarily looking for a flat course, but I would like one that is much flatter than CCM. Can you either compare the 2 courses or give me an idea of how bad the hills are in OSM?

Thanks, Dawn
Dawn dawnyoung@sympatico.ca
Toronto, ON Canada - Saturday, July 12, 2003 at 11:32:46 (ET)


What are the ten best times run by a Rhode Island native at the marathon distance?

listed below are 7 I could think of:


Tom Ratcliffe 2:14 1987
Roland Davide 2:14 1983
Bobby Doyle 2:14 1979
Tom Grundy 2:16 1980
Scott Goff 2:16 2003
Mark Skinkle 2:17 1983
Pat Gillolly 2:20 1991

Do you know some others below 2:20?

Are these years correct?



Meighread Dandeneaufamily@yahoo.com
Taunton, MA USA - Tuesday, July 08, 2003 at 20:22:15 (ET)


David and everyone:If you enter the marathon and decide that your training or other factors make you doubt your ability to go the full distance, you can certainly shift your entry to the half marathon. We would hope you would do this shift at least a week before race weekend and you should understand you would not be entitled to a refund of the difference of entry fee from the marathon to the half marathon.
gerry beagan osm26@ids.net
east greenwich, RI USA - Tuesday, July 01, 2003 at 21:56:22 (ET)


I wondered if I am registered to run the marathon, can I run the half-marathon instead if I decide I am not ready to run the full 26.2?
Dave david.sullivan@fmr.com
boston, MA USA - Tuesday, July 01, 2003 at 15:12:08 (ET)






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